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  • DiabloD3 1 hour ago
    This is a problem with long context models. To put it as simple and as bluntly as possible: just because they claim you can use 1M tokens in your context doesn't mean its true and you should do that.

    Due to extreme quantization of models and the context's KV cache, and also just really shitty samplers provided to the user (hell, most are just getting rid of sampler knobs altogether), this problem will absolutely continue.

    Want it to go away, almost like magic? Local inference. When its under your control, and no longer being forced to hold it wrong, all of the common LLM defects will go away.

    • satvikpendem 9 minutes ago
      How do they go away with local models? It's a bug of all LLMs not just cloud vs local. As mentioned in another comment, they did test local models here too and those failed as well.
    • derefr 41 minutes ago
      Long-context models do work as advertised... just not when combined with multi-turn conversation sessions.

      It's my understanding that, for all current models having long-context capability, the "parts" of the model that allow them to do long-context processing, are mostly-untouched descendants of academic model architectures; where these academic models were designed around a very constrained use-case assumption: that anyone using more than a "normal" amount of context would specifically be trying to apply a reasonably-sized prompt to an unreasonably-sized block of plain-old embedded data, as a single-shot conversation. (Consider a task like e.g. "summarize this entire book." Context = [prompt] + [text of book].) In those cases, the model's bounded amount of "high-quality" attention (inherited from a short-context base model) can easily attend to the prompt (which, for added ease-of-recognition, usually appears either at the very beginning or very end of the context); while the additional "low-quality" attention trained in during long-context training can attend "well-enough" to the data to perform the task the model needs to perform.

      Anything that allows current long-context models to appear to interact well in multi-turn conversations with memory + KV caching + etc layers in operation — while also making use of its "low quality" attention to attend to large data — is some kind of hack, and will break like a hack.

      And trying to use a current long-context model's "low quality" attention to attend to a large prompt is just going to result in nonsense. None of these model families have ever been trained to follow a million sentences of rules simultaneously when answering a question. They're just going to attend with their inherited bounded "high quality" attention to your prompt as best as they're able, while forgetting literally everything about the prompt that doesn't fit in that bounded "high quality" window.

    • _fat_santa 1 hour ago
      At my org we've been building AI agents and one internal rule we have is to use at most 50% of the models context window with the recommendation to not go over 25% for large context window models.

      Anytime I see a "1M Context Window", my brain always goes "Gotcha so a 250k usable window"

    • eurekin 1 hour ago
      The needle benchmarks show, that models extended context works for the part, that can be explained as: "I can access/adress that part of the input".

      I have no idea, why in that context, the number of attention heads isn't mentioned. Models have a limited set of them and obviously, a model can focus at N max things at a time, which has to put an upper bound of long context support in some way. There's just more things to lose focus to (or, mismanage the limited attention heads resources - per token)

    • mhitza 1 hour ago
      One of my early experiments last year with open source models and context size was with GPT-OSS 20B (the mxfp4, the "smart" 4-bit quantization). Even though it boasted a 128k context size it was bad at recall around 32k characters (didn't bother to implement the tokenizer for counting).

      The recall text was a simple hash generated, filler text from a dictionary file and a request at the end to return only the hash from the beginning of the prompt. Past 32k characters the response contained hallucinations of characters or full hashes.

      Just having large context size doesn't paint a full picture of capabilities, prompt adherence and other quality metrics.

    • firasd 1 hour ago
      This is conspiratorial speculation though. They did test many open weights models which spanned the full spectrum of performance: Nemotron 3 Ultra second-worst, GLM 5.2 top five https://arxiv.org/html/2607.25398v1
    • eshack94 50 minutes ago
      I've noticed this trend of the sampler knobs being removed. Can you explain why this might be the case?
    • barumrho 48 minutes ago
      Would you mind sharing some of your setup? Which model and which params do you tweak (e.g. temperature)?
    • simpaticoder 1 hour ago
      >Want it to go away, almost like magic? Local inference.

      Ah yes, magic that costs the same as a new car.

      • ux266478 3 minutes ago
        A good setup will cost you the same as a decent house in a major metropolitan area. And then the price of a used car to upgrade your electrical to handle that kind of load, and get the cooling setup you need.
      • DanHulton 53 minutes ago
        Not necessarily!

        If you have a semi-recent MacBook with even 32GB, you can run 20GB models that are pretty damn smart, with room to spare for the rest of your toolchain.

        If you’re reasonably connected to the code you’re writing and prompting the AI at the level of the code, not the level of the feature, you can get some fantastic results.

        Sure, it’s not the completely automated dreamland that’s been sold, but it’s still a speed-up on par from going from assembler to a higher-level language, which is still immense.

        And for effectively free, if you have a machine that would otherwise have been considered “developer-grade” for a lot of tasks anyway.

        • hedgehog 47 minutes ago
          What models have you found to work for which tasks? I find the local models very useful but not in a way that's replaced cloud models (yet, I remain hopeful).
  • mcdeltat 1 hour ago
    Yeah checks out with my anecdotal experience with Claude. It is pretty great at following instructions - for about 10 minutes, after which it seems to ignore things I told it before.

    I have quite explicit and strong instructions (e.g. don't write massive comments, use existing functionality, etc.) in CLAUDE.md files which seem to get bypassed surprisingly quickly when doing real tasks. Yet if I tell it these things in a prompt during the task, it performs way better.

    Result is I'm trying to resist adding more and more things to CLAUDE.md files which in some scenarios it does well but in other scenarios totally ignores and messes up.

    • nonethewiser 42 minutes ago
      This is not what the article is talking about. Its talking about policy documents not it forgetting something 5 prompts ago. In fact you adding things to CLAUDE.md is more what its talking about.
    • agotterer 1 hour ago
      I’ve had a lot of success using the root Claude.md for a handful of high level application wide rules and directions (I keep it pretty small), module specific claude.md in subfolders alongside the code with more specific rules and direction, and a custom rules backed /code-review skill that enforces it all and catches anything that was missed during implementation.
      • mcdeltat 4 minutes ago
        This is exactly what I have and it doesn't work well
    • cyanydeez 1 hour ago
      I believe the correct static instructions are about getting it at the right starting point for whatever class of projects you're working on; not as a continued referencable or "HOWTO" of what it's doing. They're all just "grooming" the LLM for future instructions.

      The coding harness is what's getting it to continually align to your current instructions.

      This is very obvious with local models.

      • mcdeltat 1 hour ago
        Ok so what is the correct way to tell it "I don't care what is happening, you must uphold these rules at all times"? If it's not any configuration of .md files?
        • swatcoder 15 minutes ago
          > you must uphold these rules at all times"?

          You need to let go of the idea that this is something LLM's can do. They can't. At best, they can bias towards rules conformance with more or less likelihood, but coverage and conformance both go down super-linearly as you accumulate more rules, more context, and more output in a session. That's simply the nature of how these tools work and you need to engineer your workflows around it if you want to use them.

          If you absolutely need some rules enforced, you need to adopt some framework for validating those rules that then rejects, reprocesses, or repeats any session that fails to satisfy them. In the best case scenario, this is some traditional deterministic validator (like a linter, compiler, analyzer, exhaustive test suite, etc in coding) but if you need to process in stochastic space because its something rich and ambiguous like natural language itself, then you want to dispatch a swarm very narrow, task-focused subagents that each validate against a very constrained subset. (And prepare yourself to have those to fail sometimes too. LLM's are noisy and cannot deliver strict rule enforcement on their own.)

        • pmarreck 1 hour ago
          You need to make the rule concrete somehow. I call it a "control". So for example, instead of instructing it "always run tests before committing", you (or you have it) make a git commit hook that always runs the tests first and that refuses the commit if they don't pass.

          In this case, it is an advisory control only, because the LLM can also unhook that hook. And of course, it could also just disable the failing test(s) with some bullshit reason. But it is far better than assuming it will comply every time.

          Then there is the "hard control", which is the inviolable that the LLM cannot bypass.

          You need to move as much as is technically possible to either hard or (failing that) advisory controls.

          • Muromec 42 minutes ago
            >In this case, it is an advisory control only, because the LLM can also unhook that hook

            you can in principle make a hook in the harness itself that will run an auditor prompt that checks it adhered to the policy, correct the model and also make it known in advance.

          • PunchyHamster 42 minutes ago
            So you are essentially saying "you can't, you can only safeguard from effects of LLM eventually ignoring it"
            • dbalatero 18 minutes ago
              I think things like CI, linters, hooks, etc started as defense against humans eventually ignoring it (low blood sugar, under pressure, never cared in the first place, etc).

              These seem like they would naturally extend to LLMs as well.

              (I'm not pro-LLM on balance, but the solutions of today feel similar for humans and LLMs.)

        • Muromec 1 hour ago
          Ask it to come back with a filled checklist and hand it over to a different agent with a fresh context window (three lines model). Or make it collapse the context and get back to the checklist.
        • mwigdahl 1 hour ago
          Subagents whose only job is to review the actions of your other agents for rule compliance? It works reasonably well for me in complex workflows using Claude Code.
          • carljungslabtek 1 hour ago
            Can I ask how you set this up? Like is there some way to have that run automatically, similar to “auto mode” for approvals, or do you have to invoke it regularly?
            • mwigdahl 1 hour ago
              Sure! I use an orchestrator main agent whose only job is to run subagents through the workflow process I've defined. Part of that workflow is to invoke a review subagent at particular points to check the spec, the implementation plan, and the code for rule conformance.

              The review subagent has its own definition and gets invoked with a specific target, so the context is very focused on just rule enforcement and I don't have problems with it skipping rules.

              The whole workflow is packaged up as a plugin, but you don't need that to get this approach to work. It should be sufficient to have the rules you want enforced written out somewhere, and to either kick off a focused review agent manually referencing them, or do something like I did and have it be a defined part of your workflow (depending on the automation level you want).

            • drooby 1 hour ago
              Hooks..

              CI runs. Local Git hooks. Cursor also has hooks built into their agent. Other agent APIs probably have something similar.

        • cyanydeez 53 minutes ago
          in the plugins I'm using, it's basically _always_ adding information to the context. You're not going to do it manually; you can't go back in the context and add it because that'll break the cache. The way your programming harness works is by constantly reminding the LLM of the tools available.

          A good programming harness is basically a stack. A good stack keeps building each layer. You _cannot_ pull things off the bottom of the stack because that's an expensive cache hit; but you can pull things off the top. So what your harness should be doing: <tools> <rules> <user content> onto each request _then_, when you get to the next request or result, pulling that out if there's some change.

          So you can see it's the cache that's either exponentially growing or having to cache bust to keep it fresh.

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      • spIrr 1 hour ago
        As a hobbyist, I find it difficult to figure out how to make Claude stick with some repeating things I want it to do after every major action, like re-evaluate the completeness of tests, update the documentation, etc. And CLAUDE.md/AGENTS.md definitely did NOT help there, sadly.
        • victorbjorklund 1 hour ago
          Hooks can be pretty useful for that. A hook when it is finished ”run tests suite and check coverage” ”check if your changes require updating the docs”
        • Muromec 1 hour ago
          Don't use the default harness, write your own instead.
          • TeMPOraL 1 hour ago
            Any way to do that AND use subscription instead of per-token pricing from SOTA providers?
            • Muromec 57 minutes ago
              If the harness runs on your localhost, but the inference doesn't, it usually means it's calling some API. Whether you want to break TOS of your provider like that or simply buy tokens from our friends from UTC+8 timezone is an open question.
          • Supermancho 1 hour ago
            This is the way. Making your own agent to have a sticky memory context that is prepended to every execution is necessary to ensure each task is bounded by those precepts.
            • Muromec 1 hour ago
              The trick I'm doing -- the model is given a tool that runs a prompt in the current thread to consolidate it's working memory and identity (it has a memory tool bound to the agent persona). When the prompt ends, the parts of memory that are marked as identity are merged together into a new system prompt, then the context restarts with only system prompt and this tool call surviving. Then it just keeps going.
            • drob518 45 minutes ago
              Doesn’t that blow your token cache hit rate and balloon your costs (essentially everything is billed at the input token rate, not the cached rate)?
        • cyanydeez 49 minutes ago
          What I'm currently doing in a large refactor, is I created a super-run script; the super run script is devided into super-dev (Setup dev), super-test (run all tests), super-build (build artificats), super-e2e (test all artifacts), super-deploy (deploy finished).

          Each super's sub functions should _fail hard_, and each script should be highly detailed; of course I'm not doing it myself, but in small increments of directed work, it can build up the necessary harness.

          What I get is a CI that just starts with "run super-run.sh" and that gives it context, then each sub script provides context depending on if it succeeds or fails. If it fails, the agent is provided what it needs.

          It's basically, you have to design the products of the AI to give itself the context. Another technique I'm testing out is a parallel set of files like <subject-module>.js, <subject-module>.test.js, <subject-module>.md which get pulled up if the Agent is looking for a file.

  • twosdai 21 minutes ago
    This article to me also implies that there are some potential issues with large Spec based development flows, which I haven't been able to pin down lately.

    Specifically, having agent implementation drift from the Spec.

  • wongarsu 1 hour ago
    Any model with a good score on this benchmark would have a good claim on superhuman abilities. Humans are pretty terrible at being thrown a long policy document and being expected to follow it

    And while we shouldn't anthropomorphize these models too much, I wouldn't be surprised if many of the core reasons for failures are similar. Working memory is a limited resource; you can only focus on so many things at once; reasoning depth is limited; and many real-world policies are not actually meant to be implemented in the same way they are written and have insufficient specification of edge cases

    With humans, we usually do the equivalent of RLHF, both via "training" with simulated cases, and via feedback while on the job. You would never hand a newbie a 124 page policy document and expect them to correctly apply it on the first task, or to do it reliably in the first month

    • batshit_beaver 1 minute ago
      The challenge with comparing these things to humans, is that humans learn. A newbie might not respect your organization’s set of policies on day one, but what about 3 months in? Or 3 years? Meanwhile there’s still no reasonable mechanism for automatically fine tuning LLMs or adjusting their harnesses to make them better at completing your organization’s objectives more successfully. They’re still overwhelmingly governed by the shared weights and harness policies found to be successful for the average case.
    • loremium 10 minutes ago
      isn't it because there are too many contradictions and ambiguity? the reason it works for humans is because we don't apply everything at once either.
    • ActionHank 1 hour ago
      That's a great comparison, human vs ai on a wall of text.

      The problem is that it doesn't fit the sales pitch of LLMs and agents - humanlike or better, repeatably, 24/7, for a fraction of the price, you just need to make sure that you give it all the rules.

      Unfortunately we can't really have a meaningful conversation until the money vampires have left so we will need to reschedule this until after the bubble.

  • msejas 1 hour ago
    Most people don't understand that 'agentic AI' is a completely synthetic, force fed capability by extensive Reinforcement Learning on synthetic domain specific 'agentic' datasets on post training.

    If the LLM wasn't post-trained to adhere to specific handbook, it just won't work. If the LLM wasn't trained on an use case the lab decided was worth making a synthetic agentic dataset, it won't work as well as you want.

    There's a reason the main agentic task LLMs excel at are coding tasks, it's the way of working of the creators, and they understand intimately the flow and can train for it.

    I believe the true way will be able to easily fine tune models on your agentic use cases, but it would require a big company to compile a huge dataset on it's way of working and I don't think anyone wants to be the first.

    In terms of long context, accurate attention retrieval from early tokens is just impossible, given the expansion of RoPE encoding for the positions, or in case of Kimi that don't use it anymore, as well as deepseek, early context is heavily compressed you lose accurate information.

    If people spent more time studying about AI and how it works, they would realize that the default should be to one shot prompt your task with a big, cached system prmopt, with an user prompt that is just dynamic data, specified to the cheapest model that can do the job.

    Unless you really can't do this given your problem, you should try to make a graph of well defined, step by step oneshot prompts, and THEN if your problem still can't be solved with that, then you start leveraging agents.

    Despite this giving better results, and being more cost efficient, is evidently too much work then just letting the AI do all the work.

    • drob518 59 minutes ago
      What do you mean by a graph of one shot prompts?
      • msejas 37 minutes ago
        Most people jump straight to agents when what they actually need is a graph. Example: a mining company receives free-text reports from field geologists. You could have:

        Geologist report -> LLM call extracts minerals we are looking for (you inject a db query result on the user prompt), locations, assay mentions and risks into structured fields -> LLM call classifies evidence into positive indicators, negative indicators and unknowns -> LLM call estimates deposit potential and confidence -> database lookups inject regional ore demand, nearby deposits, infrastructure and historical yield data -> LLM call combines geological evidence with business context -> LLM call generates an investment recommendation and rationale.

        That's what I mean by graph. Every step is a separate LLM call with a well-defined responsibility, consuming the output of the previous node. Each node can be tested, benchmarked, retrained, replaced, or monitored independently. Why would you use an agent here? You can cache every single system prompt on each call making your total token output much cheaper than having a full 'output' only token generation workflow which is what happens with agents.

        There is nothing to discover. The workflow is already known. The company already knows how geologists evaluate prospects. The company already knows what data sources matter. The company already knows what the final output should look like. You don't want the model deciding which tools to call, which reasoning path to take, or which pieces of information are important every single run. You want the exact same process applied to every report so results are consistent, measurable, auditable and debuggable. My default is: One-shot prompt -> if not enough -> graph of LLM calls -> if not enough -> agent. A surprising amount of enterprise AI is really just: Unstructured input -> extraction -> classification -> enrichment from databases -> decision support. Not: Unstructured input -> autonomous agent spends 20 steps deciding what to do next.

        Agents make sense when the workflow itself is unknown.

        If the workflow is already understood, a graph is usually cheaper, more reliable, easier to evaluate, easier to debug, and less dependent on whatever synthetic "agentic" behaviors happened to get reinforced during post-training. I am sure people default to agents mostly because it's less engineering work than explicitly modeling the process.

    • dominotw 35 minutes ago
      can downvoters explain? this has been by experience with these tools too.

      i thought it was well known that claude code got good at coding because anthropic bought tons of coding data from companies like mercor.

  • elevation 1 hour ago
    Long policy documents are also a problem for human agents. Without special training no one will retain 180 pages HR employee handbook, fire codes, OSHA safety rules, FCC regulations, the US legal code.

    If the stakes are high, e.g, proceeding in ignorance could lead to prison time, people will favor inaction, even if the policy technically permits a corner case. If the stakes are low, people will completely override policy for the path of least resistance.

    • DenisM 14 minutes ago
      So what is tre answer then?

      I feel like “discretion” parties missing. Do we need some kind of special discretion model?

  • LetsGetTechnicl 1 minute ago
    Well no shit obviously. Just cause you tell the random text generator to follow some rules doesn't mean it will.
  • supermatt 1 hour ago
    There was an article a few years ago called "Lost in the Middle: How Language Models Use Long Contexts" https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.03172

    From my experience this holds true to this day. It was one of my core observations for similarity to the limitations of human working memory on "Engineering for Bounded Cognition"

    • JSR_FDED 48 minutes ago
      Richard Hendricks solved this decisively with middle-out compression
      • supermatt 39 minutes ago
        I didn't get the reference, but it looks like im going to have to watch that series now :D
        • JSR_FDED 19 minutes ago
          It holds up really well. I’m envious you get to watch it for the first tome, enjoy!
  • DoctorOetker 25 minutes ago
    Attention vs. Consistency

    When "performance" breaks down over long lengths, one could attribute it to a lapse in attention, but one could equally suspect inconsistent instructions.

    The fewer instructions and conditions that need to be simultaneously met the easier it is to comply, but with more and more instructions one is bound to introduce internal inconsistencies within the instructions.

  • pelagicAustral 1 hour ago
    I noticed this behaviour a few months back, I think I was using Sonnet 4.6 at the time... I have strict rules about comments in the codebase, this all for personal projects, and the reason I restrict comments is to keep the token count low.

    At some point between the model i was using and the previous version of it, Claude started inserting massive comments with references to tickets and other tasks. All this while having specific directives on the CLAUDE.md

    Since then I resorted to developing my crapware as if I was the floor manager of a vehicle assembly line, and I have a few highly-specialized sub-agents running errands around the main session, but only ever taking care of a single concern. The main session builds with the knowledge contained in things like CLAUDE.md but the sub agents make sure things like the no/low-comments directives are either enforced, or factored into the final product.

  • iamacyborg 4 minutes ago
    Hard to take this seriously when it has all the hallmarks and annoying tics indicating it has been written by Claude.
  • storus 46 minutes ago
    What really helped me was to run any .md/prompts through an LLM to find contradictions, duplicates or ambiguities, repeatedly. That led to agents much better following instructions.
  • schmuhblaster 52 minutes ago
    For my own (rather idiosyncratic) harness I've been experimenting [0] with "compiling" long markdown specifications into small executable logic programs. It's too early to tell for sure, but I believe that this approach does have its merits when you want some guarantees about how your agents behave for longer tasks.

    [0] https://github.com/deepclause/deepclause-sdk

    • drob518 28 minutes ago
      Interesting idea. I’ve been noodling about something similar myself for a few months, but I haven’t moved forward with testing it. What sort of outcomes are you seeing with it? IMO, we’re never going to get to AGI without fusing “soft” AI decision making with “hard” logic and symbolic algorithmic reasoning. Humans don’t realize this most of the time, but we routinely use them all.
  • Otterly99 33 minutes ago
    This is a problem with soft rules and LLM in general, and it makes sense that it gets worse on complicated tasks with long context.

    Glad to be able to put some numbers on it.

  • donatj 1 hour ago
    I absolutely believe it.

    Codex has been pushing things to my main branch all week despite me repeatedly telling it not to and adding to my AGENTS.md very clear instructions for creating feature branches and putting up a PR. It keeps doing it in spite of all that.

    I'm probably going to need to enable branch protection on my personal projects... What a pain.

  • crossroadsguy 1 hour ago
    Dealing with agents/LLMs based on "instructions & guidelines" has taught me - nothing (un)reliably governs agents other than agents themselves or (rather i.e.) their motherships (assuming they can and they intend to). Or if you add ton of local tooling.
  • nonethewiser 44 minutes ago
    In my experience, the more structure you enforce on models, the worse they perform and the less they actually do what you want.
    • dominotw 36 minutes ago
      yep all the advice about context engineering, harness whatever is so silly. ai doesnt give a flying fuck about some IMPORTANT instruction in your claude.md.

      It does what its has been trained to do. So find out what its trained to do and just use it to do that. This is not general intelligence.

  • firasd 1 hour ago
    Opus 4.8 (max thinking) scored highest and Grok 4.3 lowest

    It's hard to understand what's going on with Grok. It's like it has capabilities in a theoretical sense but maybe the training is so focused on being in x.com/grok.com with the web search tool enabled for "is this true?11" type queries that with any API type usage with document workflow instructions, tool use, code gen etc it completely falls over

  • mordae 1 hour ago
    Why would anyone think that models optimized for efficient context management, giving much more weight to a short sliding window, would attend to distant, heavily diluted tokens?

    Plus the model's capacity to take more context into account and actually integrate it to the output is simply limited by the number of activated parameters. If you give it a playbook, you are forcing to choose it between attending to the playbook and the task at hand.

    If you want to force it to work step-by-step, you need to present the steps one-by-one. Ideally with rules for the current step at hand and maybe relevant input again, depending on overall task size.

    Why did you think models love to re-read files before editing them? It increases recall quality and thus edit precision and thus benchmarks.

    • spIrr 1 hour ago
      > limited by the number of activated parameters

      not sure I got it?

      Separately, the frontier labs are kinda pushing us into that behaviour by releasing models with ever-larger context windows.

      • mordae 1 hour ago
        To run at decent speed, all models try hard to use only most likely relevant part of the context and most likely relevant weights (MoE) to predict the next token. Doing the math in full is unfeasible.
  • leetrout 1 hour ago
    HANDBOOK.md is a benchmark for long-context agentic instruction following, modeled on how enterprise employees follow company handbooks in their day-to-day work. Each task is a unique RL environment with internal tools and external MCP servers, spanning five enterprise domains: Finance, Medical Billing, Insurance, Logistics, and HR.

    The prompts reflect the actual jobs enterprise workers perform every day. Each task drops an AI agent into a live company environment, requiring them to cross-reference an extensive, multi-section handbook against a cluttered inbox, a multi-channel Slack workspace, Jira queues, and a stack of files (spreadsheets, PDFs), and working out both what to do and what the handbook forbids.

    https://github.com/surge-ai/handbook/tree/main

    • ghostly_s 1 hour ago
      Please don't paste walls of text into the comment field without quotation marks. It wastes all of our time.
  • hotpaper77 1 hour ago
    I got pumped seeing the OKF format from Google (which is just a standardization of wiki pattern) but quickly realized it could not yet combine many subtle concepts together in an efficient way.
  • honkycat 30 minutes ago
    This is what spec driven development tries to solve.

    Multiple rounds of generating small contacts documents that grow from the original idea , trying to keep each slice small enough to process for a human to approve/disprove .

    Eventually it leads to a long list of tasks grouped by functionality. You start a new context and the orchestrator agent dispatches tasks to sub agents with a limited amount of information provided to each sub agent.

    Also should have adversarial review and approval gates with other agents and roles.

  • tokai 47 minutes ago
    Having only dipped my toes in generative ai recently I'm surprised how small even a 1mio window is. A semi serious project can take several session in one sitting. Especially as degradation sets in waay before the window is full.
    • supermatt 25 minutes ago
      Few pointers:

      Dont try and handle the entire project in context.

      Use a well structured filesystem layout for your code with a few lines in an AGENTS.md describing the layout and core architectural requirements (no more than that, as per the article!).

      Then work on small-medium tasks at a time with a fresh context.

      At the end of your task, ask the agent if there are any key points about the project layout or architecture it would want to add to memory - audit those manually and amend your AGENTS.md accordingly.

      If your code is well structured and you keep your tasks localised, you can get away with seemingly minuscule context windows.

      It's also worth noting that high effort models love to slurp up whatever context they can. You almost never need/want high effort for non cross-cutting tasks.

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